madamemodiste: (Chemise a la Reine)
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I need to make a chemise and a petticoat for the chemise a la reine. I have a corset already. I have a pattern for the chemise, but what kind of petticoat do I need to make? Advice on how full it should be? Do I wear a bum roll?

Should they be of linen or cotton? Light weight, I assume.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiofiorina.livejournal.com
I wear the following under my chemise:

shift (short sleeved)
corset
bum-pad
fluffy woollen petticoat (née blanket)
and (since last week) a muslin petticoat.

And of course stockings & shoes

Cool, thank you!

Date: 2008-06-19 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamemodiste.livejournal.com
Oooh, a bum pad? What's it look like? I can make that!

Any advice on the petticoat? Fullness, shape?

Re: Cool, thank you!

Date: 2008-06-19 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiofiorina.livejournal.com
Look here - I wore the petticoat last winter as "modern" skirt for dance training - the fluffy white thing:
http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s205/Nymeria_Martell/Les%20Tabourot/

The bumpad looks roughly like the moon, approx 3 days after being full. constructed after trial & error principe, but if you'd like, I could take pictures tonight.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padawansguide.livejournal.com
I have a linen one, but I'm no expert! I love the painting in your icon - do you have a bigger one?

Date: 2008-06-19 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamemodiste.livejournal.com
photo emailed to you!

Linen sounds good :D

(I love watching Katherine's icon changing pictures at a different rate in the posts!)

Date: 2008-06-19 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quincy134.livejournal.com
I haven't made one of these, but there was some discussion of undergarments here: http://community.livejournal.com/chemisedresses/2189.html

Date: 2008-06-19 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamemodiste.livejournal.com
LOL!! I JUST signed up for that community! YAY!

Date: 2008-06-19 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quincy134.livejournal.com
I wanted to make sure you knew about it, anyway!

Date: 2008-06-19 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamemodiste.livejournal.com
Makes sense to tell me about it since they seem to cover all the things I'm asking about. Thank you!!!

Date: 2008-06-19 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennylafleur.livejournal.com
I wear a shift (chemise), 2 lightweight petticoats and a bum roll or false rump. I used the Wingeo pattern (the only one in the line I like! :>) for that. http://www.jennylafleur.com/precis/2004_01.htm

The petticoats are just 2-3 panels of fabric pleated onto a waistband. Linen is probably more accurate but cotton is easier on the budget so that is what I have right now. Both Katherine and I have short tutorials on 18th century petticoats you might find helpful.

http://www.jennylafleur.com/study/petticoat.htm
http://koshka-the-cat.com/18c_petticoat.html

Date: 2008-06-19 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamemodiste.livejournal.com
Thanks, Lady!! You rock!!

And I'm SOOO glad you liked the Wingeo pattern. I'm suffering from sticker shock on the RH pattern...$40 with shipping. I know it's top quality, but this is just for little ole me.

Date: 2008-06-19 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamemodiste.livejournal.com
Oh wait. You mean you used the Wingeo for the underthings, not the gown. Darn it!

Date: 2008-06-19 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennylafleur.livejournal.com
I was going to say they want $40 for a bum roll pattern! But no, I used the Waugh diagram for the dress and the Wingeo for the false rump.

Date: 2008-06-19 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chloeandrudy.livejournal.com
Look what I found, a commhttp://community.livejournal.com/chemisedresses/unity on chemise dresses:

Date: 2008-06-19 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quincy134.livejournal.com
LOL, we were just talking about that comm, in the comments above, probably just as you were posting. Great minds!

Date: 2008-06-19 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chloeandrudy.livejournal.com
It makes it easier to find all this info in one community, than trying to remember it or find it later when I decide to make mine. Just not a priority right now but definitely in the workplan.

Date: 2008-06-19 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chloeandrudy.livejournal.com
And why the heck when I paste the http in, it puts it in the middle of the sentence I was typing before it? Now that link isn't working.

o/t, but I have to ask --

Date: 2008-06-19 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythosidhe.livejournal.com
Where did you get that icon? I want to see the full picture!

Re: o/t, but I have to ask --

Date: 2008-06-19 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madamemodiste.livejournal.com
I made it this morning after seeing it here:
http://www.blastmilk.com/decollete/revolutionary-fashion/chemise-dress.php

I love that it's a big size so you can see detail well.

Re: o/t, but I have to ask --

Date: 2008-06-19 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythosidhe.livejournal.com
Thanks! I might have known it came from Kallisti, her site is such a fabulous resource. The detail on that is amazing! Even down to the hem of her skirts.

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